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Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:36 pm
by stricko
So Pandora has purchased Hot AC KXMZ Rapid City last week. Does this "officially" make them a broadcaster? ASCAP and MusicFirst both say, "I don't think so..."

Should Pandora now get the same rate that other big companies get for both their terrestrial signals that are broadcast online AND their custom streams? :cry:

Re: Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:26 pm
by theradiomall
What will probably happen, after an expensive legal battle, is that they will pay broadcast rates for their one radio station, and still pay the same huge percentage for their streaming operation, or improbably, get a little tiny break on their streaming rates. I humbly believe that once that shakes out, Pandora probably won't have a use for the radio station and will put it back on the market.

Re: Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:40 pm
by stricko
Hmmm... Or... maybe they'll buy more? That could end up being less than the difference in the fees? LOL!
As long as the musicians get their fair share of whatever money comes in that's what's most important.

Re: Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:45 am
by razorback9926
> As long as the musicians get their fair share of whatever money comes in
> that's what's most important.

I presume you're on board with terrestrial radio paying royalties, too? After all, "that's what's most important."

Re: Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:57 am
by theradiomall
I don't know why the terrestrial radio paying royalties won't go away. (Other than greed, of course.) How long is it going to take to get out that the artists and labels are already being given huge amounts by radio stations?

If I had a radio station and was forced to pay artists for playing their songs, I would turn around and bill the label standard spot rates for every second of every song that I played, because, after all, playing a song on the radio is nothing more than a commercial for the artist and the album. And while circumstances are changing thanks to The Web (which is hurting the labels far more than radio stations) just TRY to become a major artist without radio airplay.

Re: Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:57 am
by moosedaddy
Replies like this make me so angry....ignorance. I understand if you don't work in the business you don't get it.....but try to learn.

Radio Stations DON'T pay artists to play their music. EVER.
The songwriters are the ones who are paid for usage of their songs on radio. Songwriters like me. I'm not an artist....I dont play live. I'm a staff songwriter. A lot of times the artists write their songs....sometimes they don't....
When an artist records one of my songs I receive no up front money. I depend on radio stations and record labels to account to me for how much product they've sold and how many times it's played on radio and other mediums.

It has nothing to do with greed but rather getting paid for my work. Most songwriters aren't wealthy....just trying to make art and get by. Why should someone like you deserve to receive my work without paying for it? What makes you so entitled that you think you deserve my years of experience and sacrifice for free?

Re: Pandora Vs. World?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:27 pm
by sarkarinaukri
the fair share for the musicians is more important than any thing

sarkari naukri