Page 1 of 1

Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:27 am
by corneo
Other than dropping the "F" bomb, how far have you or heard somebody push obscenities?

I can't remember when the last "shock jock" or station that made national news being nailed for obscenities. (I mean within the last 5 to 10 years.)
I was always told it depends on the federal administration. If you have a "liberal" administration, they are lenient, but if you have a "conservative" administration, watch what you say.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:52 am
by successfulhost
"I was always told it depends on the federal administration. If you have a "liberal" administration, they are lenient, but if you have a "conservative" administration, watch what you say."

You were told wrong. The FCC is the FCC.

Right now there are few shock jocks because radio companies are afraid of the PC police attacking their sponsors more than they're afraid of the FCC. Anyone who has done a show even REMOTELY controversial or edgy can tell you about that. Right now, the FCC is the least of your concerns. You really need to be worried about a bunch of keyboard warriors that will pester anyone associated with you and your station on social media until you get fired.

This goes for non radio jobs, too. Say something someone doesn't like online, and they'll go after your family, your job and anything else they can do to destroy you. It really is out of control.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:58 am
by zebster
So successfulhost... you have a problem with advertisers not wanting to be associated with some stuff? Seems like free speech should go for everybody. And regarding shows that are "REMOTELY controversial or edgy"; I believe Rush and Savage still have shows. For example.
Arguing with your advertisers doesn't strike me as wise.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:27 am
by dwc151
zebster wrote:So successfulhost... you have a problem with advertisers not wanting to be associated with some stuff? Seems like free speech should go for everybody. And regarding shows that are "REMOTELY controversial or edgy"; I believe Rush and Savage still have shows. For example.
Arguing with your advertisers doesn't strike me as wise.
I think what he was trying to get at is that there is an inordinate amount of weight given to one or two nutjobs that mass email sponsors in order to get a show canned because the host did something they don't like.

Right now, the outrage mob has more say than anyone. For example, the campaign against Rush has been narrowed down to 7 actual people who manage to have an effect on what 15 or 20 million listen to. It's out of whack.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:33 pm
by successfulhost
zebster wrote:So successfulhost... you have a problem with advertisers not wanting to be associated with some stuff? Seems like free speech should go for everybody. And regarding shows that are "REMOTELY controversial or edgy"; I believe Rush and Savage still have shows. For example.
Arguing with your advertisers doesn't strike me as wise.
The advertisers aren't doing this on their own accord. They're being bombarded by false outrage slung by cowardly keyboard warriors. When one of them stands up to these e-thugs, they ALWAYS end up winning.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:26 am
by corneo
I wouldn't use Rush in this argument mainly because a station has to pay a monthly fee to get his show. He is one of the few who do not need advertiser to keep going.

But I do have to agree, keyboard warriors are a pain.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:52 am
by zebster
corneo wrote:I wouldn't use Rush in this argument mainly because a station has to pay a monthly fee to get his show. He is one of the few who do not need advertiser to keep going.

But I do have to agree, keyboard warriors are a pain.
Sure; they're a a pain. But to suggest they're a blight on freedom of speech is to see only one side, and to ignore the extremely highly politically charged atmosphere of today's highly partisan info-news industry. I don't see either side's media representation suddenly becoming polite. It's not happening.

However, one side has made it standard practice to complain about media content for some decades now, going back in my memory to Spiro Agnew (before he resigned in disgrace).

Their complaints don't ring true for me. They call "the media" "liberal", while at the same time bragging how Fox News is the #1 cable news network and Rush is one of the most popular talk shows on the air. Isn't that the media?

I would suggest that they complain because it is their interests to do so. It's called working the refs.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:45 pm
by successfulhost
The problem isn't the multitudes of morons that do nothing but try to get people fired from behind a keyboard, it's the spineless companies that fire people based upon a couple of people pestering them on multiple social media accounts.

The only reason I used Rush as an example is to show that there aren't as many of these people as the employers think. If there are only 7 living, breathing people going after the biggest guy in the business, why should some company in market #350 fire their host because one person got their little feelings hurt? The answer is simple: They shouldn't. Stand up for your damn talent.

Re: Obscenities - how far have you push the limit?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:37 am
by corneo
I understand your point and have seen stations avoid confrontation on all levels. A manager at a station once told me, "we get along with everybody, watch what you say." (like I couldn't talk about gay issues, immigrants, local politicians. you get the idea)
I guess now I'm lucky. The station I am currently with uses complaints as a advertising tool.

They received an email because I said "hell" on the air. So now my show uses the song "hell ya" as it's opener and if I say something that could be taken as offensive, I have to drop a nickel in the meanie jar on the air.

But it maybe from PC keyboard cops that keep obscenities in check.